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		<title>Language Geek New Year Intentions</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know, I know - you expected to see &#8220;resolutions&#8221; in the title. I decided to copy Geoff&#8217;s lead, by using intentions rather than resolutions. Every New Year resolution I&#8217;ve ever made, I&#8217;ve failed miserably at; and as Einstein said, &#8220;The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, I know - you expected to see &#8220;resolutions&#8221; in the title. I decided to copy <a href="http://gbarto.com/multilingua/confessions/2009/01/new-years-intentions.html">Geoff&#8217;s lead</a>, by using <em>intentions</em> rather than <em>resolutions</em>. Every New Year resolution I&#8217;ve ever made, I&#8217;ve failed miserably at; and as Einstein said, &#8220;The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.&#8221; The empirical evidence I have on hand (that is, my memory of years gone by) says that if I make a language resolution, it&#8217;ll fail, so I&#8217;m going to avoid stepping into the quicksand altogether, and just not <em>make</em> any resolutions. It&#8217;s intentions this year.</p>
<p>So, the intentions:</p>
<ul>
<li>In general, I intend to continue working on my three current languages, German, French, and Russian. This may seem silly, but I think it&#8217;s important to have that base intention. I suppose giving up language learning altogether would be a possibility, so&#8230;</li>
<li>For German, I intend to continue increasing my vocabulary, and reading native materials. I also intend to work more intensively using Hammer&#8217;s German Grammar and the associated Exercise book; I&#8217;ve neglected them too long.</li>
<li>For French, I intend to finish up working with Assimil&#8217;s New French with Ease, and start on Assimil&#8217;s Using French. I also intend to continue getting a basic vocabulary under my belt, using Mastering French Vocabulary as my primary source. While I&#8217;m not going to do so just yet, as I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m far enough along, I intend on getting a French language exchange partner sometime during 2009.</li>
<li>For Russian, I have two specific intentions: finish working through New Penguin&#8217;s Russian Course, <em>and</em> finish working through Assimil&#8217;s Russisch ohne Mühe. I&#8217;d like to make it through at least one of them by mid-2009, and both of them by the end of the year. Even with regular university courses and my other language pursuits, I think this should be achievable, with a bit of focus on my part.</li>
<li>And finally, I intend to display my utter madness, by perhaps starting a new language in 2009. I won&#8217;t be doing it right now, as with Russian, I still feel like I&#8217;m floating in a vast, turbulent sea, with no life jacket. Once I feel like I&#8217;m in said ocean with a sad little boat, then I may start a new language. If I do start a new language this year, it will be Spanish.</li>
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<p>What are your language learning intentions / resolutions / plans for the year?</p>
<p>And of course - happy new year! I hope you all had nice holidays.</p>
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		<title>Lang-8</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jaered from Lang-8 sent me an email a few days ago, asking me to check out the Lang-8 site, and perhaps blog about it. So, what is Lang-8? It&#8217;s a bit like many other language exchange sites - you sign up, you can search profiles, etc. - but with one major difference. The main pull [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaered from Lang-8 sent me an email a few days ago, asking me to check out the <a href="http://lang-8.com/">Lang-8 site</a>, and perhaps blog about it. So, what is Lang-8? It&#8217;s a bit like many other language exchange sites - you sign up, you can search profiles, etc. - but with one major difference. The main pull behind Lang-8 is that you can post directly to the site and receive corrections from native speakers of your target language. When you click on a journal entry, each sentence is linked, so that you can click on it and correct it, using buttons for red and blue text, as well as bold and crossout.</p>
<p>It seems like a pretty good idea to me, being able to post and get corrections from any native speaker who comes along. I love language exchanges, and I&#8217;ve made many good friends via them; but being able to just post something and get corrections without going through the ordeal of finding a partner, doing the introductions, figuring out how we&#8217;re going to correct, etc&#8230; that&#8217;s quite nice.</p>
<p>The site seems to be dominated by those who are learning East Asian languages (particularly Japanese), but there are European speakers floating around in the mass. I think the correction interface is a little clunky and could use some work, but it&#8217;s still usable; the site as a whole could use some decluttering, as it seems awfully busy. Overall, though, I&#8217;m quite fond of the overall idea. Do check it out.</p>
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		<title>More “Traditional” Language Learning Methods</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As of late, I&#8217;ve found myself gravitating increasingly towards more &#8220;traditional&#8221; language learning methods - studying grammar tables, copying out texts by hand and annotating my copies, learning words by writing them (using Iversen&#8217;s word list method).
That&#8217;s not to say, of course, that I don&#8217;t do other things. I still listen to my current languages [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of late, I&#8217;ve found myself gravitating increasingly towards more &#8220;traditional&#8221; language learning methods - studying grammar tables, copying out texts by hand and annotating my copies, learning words by writing them (using <a href="http://learnanylanguage.wikia.com/wiki/Word_lists">Iversen&#8217;s word list method</a>).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say, of course, that I don&#8217;t do other things. I still listen to my current languages a lot, and read in the more typical way (i.e., not writing out the text). I also am still using Anki, typically feeding the words I learn with my word lists into it after a few days of review. But I think part of my reasoning for using the more traditional approaches is that my former ways have been too passive, tarnished with too much of a mindset of, &#8220;if I just putz around in this language long enough, listening to lots of material, I&#8217;ll just &#8216;get&#8217; the grammar and all of the vocabulary.&#8221; I know there are those who believe in such an approach, and perhaps it may work for them; but I don&#8217;t think it will work for me.</p>
<p>Russian is a prime example of this. If you were to believe many modern, trendy language programs, why, all you&#8217;d have to do is listen to recordings and repeat after them, and in a matter of 3 hours, you&#8217;d be fluent! Exaggeration on my part, I admit, but I grow tired of this vast lie that the market has made that language learning is easy and fast; it&#8217;s not. But my point is, even ignoring my exaggeration, most of these courses promise something which is nigh impossible for the foreign learner: to learn Russian well without really digging into the grammar. I suppose it could be done, but not in any fashion that&#8217;s even marginally time efficient. I&#8217;d much rather study grammar tables and &#8220;cram&#8221; isolated words into my vocabulary than spend who knows how many hours listening to the same stuff over and over, wondering, &#8220;What&#8217;s with the words changing so much?&#8221;</p>
<p>The modern language learning program industry has gone too far, I think, in trying to make things &#8220;friendly&#8221; - they&#8217;ve dumbed things down too much. Yes, I know children learn languages without studying grammar, without doing word lists, without writing out declension and conjugation tables; but if we, as adults, have the ability to study these things, and in turn speed up our acquisition of a language, we should use that ability to its fullest. Despite what some language program publishers would have us believe, grammar isn&#8217;t a bad thing, and learning words out of context isn&#8217;t one of the seven deadly sins. Yesterday I learned a number of German words &#8220;out of context&#8221;, including <em>seekrank</em>, <em>Seekrankheit</em>, and <em>Seekarte</em> (I was just pulling words right out of one of my dictionaries to learn, another sin, I&#8217;m sure). While I&#8217;m aware that you need some context when learning <em>some</em> words, I think that for <em>most</em> words, you don&#8217;t. I need no context for those words, because seasick, seasickness, and nautical chart, are most likely used in a similar fashion as to how they&#8217;re used in English.</p>
<p>My apologies for this slightly ranting post, but I&#8217;ve just had it with courses that promise to teach me a language easily and without any difficulty, without any memorizing, without looking at (gasp!) grammar tables. Maybe some of us <em>want</em> grammar tables, because we see them as useful.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came across a neat resource for German learners recently, Detektei Suni &#38; Partner. It&#8217;s a Hörspiel, or radio play, in podcast format. Other than some brief encounters with radio plays as a child (which I had to listen to on cassette tape, not actually on the radio), this is the first one I&#8217;ve ever [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across a neat resource for German learners recently, <a href="http://medienpaedagogik.phil.uni-augsburg.de/detekteisuni/index.php">Detektei Suni &amp; Partner</a>. It&#8217;s a Hörspiel, or radio play, in podcast format. Other than some brief encounters with radio plays as a child (which I had to listen to on cassette tape, not actually on the radio), this is the first one I&#8217;ve ever listened to. I like it as a format; I find it much more engaging than listening to an audiobook. The various sound effects help you get a feel for the environment, and the multiple voices (rather than one voice of an audiobook reader) also makes things more interesting. You also obviously get to hear a number of accents.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if they&#8217;re still making new episodes - the last one appeared in July - but even if they&#8217;re not, there are 7 episodes to listen to, and you can also get the <a href="http://medienpaedagogik.phil.uni-augsburg.de/detekteisuni/download/skripte/">full transcripts</a> for each one.</p>
<p>Does anyone here listen to German Hörspiele? If so, could you recommend any? I&#8217;d like to explore the format more.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I mentioned in my last post, I&#8217;ve been keeping a language log at the how-to-learn-any-language.com forums. I&#8217;ve found it to be a wonderful help, both in keeping myself motivated, and in (obviously) keeping track of what exactly I&#8217;m doing in my language studies.
It helps my motivation, as it&#8217;s a nice feeling to sit down [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned in my last post, I&#8217;ve been keeping a <a href="http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11864&amp;PN=1&amp;TPN=1">language log</a> at the how-to-learn-any-language.com forums. I&#8217;ve found it to be a wonderful help, both in keeping myself motivated, and in (obviously) keeping track of what exactly I&#8217;m doing in my language studies.</p>
<p>It helps my motivation, as it&#8217;s a nice feeling to sit down and document what I&#8217;ve done throughout the day. It makes my little study sessions of 15 or 20 minutes seem more substantial, when I&#8217;m able to line them all up together, and see that I&#8217;ve put in 2 or more hours in throughout the day. While this isn&#8217;t always the case - sometimes I&#8217;m doing good to total half an hour! - often, it <em>is</em> the case, and when it happens, I&#8217;m happy to see it.</p>
<p>And, as the more obvious benefit of keeping a language learning log, it helps me keep track of what I&#8217;m doing and stay on track. Particularly when you&#8217;re tackling multiple languages simultaneously, it&#8217;s easy to get lost as to what you&#8217;ve done, and what you still need to do. Did I review chapter 4 of my Russian textbook? When was the last time I reviewed that French Assimil lesson? Have I covered this tense at all, or do I need to hit the grammar book?</p>
<p>As an extended benefit, the log has helped me focus on consistently hitting new material for my languages. In the past, I&#8217;ve fallen into the trap of sticking to one thing for too long, aiming for complete mastery before moving along. While some people are capable of doing this, I&#8217;ve found that I prefer to learn a lot of new material, and then consolidate the knowledge as I go along. Staring for days on end at one tense or declension generally just bores me to tears, which hinders learning.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve not kept a language log before, do try it; it might help you. Geoff has also written about keeping a <a href="http://gbarto.com/multilingua/confessions/2008/10/journaling-and-making-yourself-do-your.html">language journal</a>, so if you&#8217;re thinking of keeping one, you should certainly check out his method as well.</p>
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		<title>Not Dead</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to post a quick note and let my remaining readers (have I any?) that I&#8217;ve not dropped off the planet. I&#8217;ve been fairly busy with school, and I&#8217;ve wanted to spend my language time learning languages rather than blogging about it. I have, however, been keeping a new language learning log at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to post a quick note and let my remaining readers (have I any?) that I&#8217;ve not dropped off the planet. I&#8217;ve been fairly busy with school, and I&#8217;ve wanted to spend my language time learning languages rather than blogging about it. I <em>have</em>, however, been keeping a new language learning log at the How To Learn Any Language forums. If you&#8217;re interested, you can check it out <a href="http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11864&amp;PN=1&amp;TPN=1">here</a>.</p>
<p>The blog here isn&#8217;t going to stop, however; I need to get back to it, as I enjoy doing it. I&#8217;ve got a post about my current language learning brewing, as well as a few other ideas floating around. If you&#8217;re subscribed, I ask that you stay that way; it&#8217;s not hurting your feedreader any just sitting there, and I promise to get back it. <img src='http://languagegeek.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading the comments on my last post, along with Geoff&#8217;s blog post response, I wanted to clarify my position a bit on Cyrillic handwriting. I think learning the cursive form of Cyrillic is useful for the foreign learner - up to a point, depending on the personality of the learner. As many people pointed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the comments on my last post, along with Geoff&#8217;s blog post <a href="http://gbarto.com/multilingua/confessions/2008/09/should-you-learn-cyrillic-handwriting.html">response</a>, I wanted to clarify my position a bit on Cyrillic handwriting. I think learning the cursive form of Cyrillic is useful for the foreign learner - up to a point, depending on the personality of the learner. As many people pointed out, it only takes an hour or two to learn the cursive forms once you know the Cyrillic alphabet, and so to not gain at least a passive recognition of it would be silly. The passive recognition, though, is where I have stopped with my usage of it. The reasons are fairly simple:</p>
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<li>I have no real plans at this point of ever living in Russia, nor of having a snail-mail Russian penpal. That latter point isn&#8217;t me being a snob; I just know my personality. I&#8217;ve had many German penpals during my studies, and they&#8217;ve all been on the internet. It&#8217;s infinitely faster, and assuming each person already has an internet connection, email is free. It&#8217;s nice to get corrections the next day, rather than two or three weeks later.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s faster for me to print. I know many people find that their cursive writing is faster than their printing, but mine is not. I long ago abandoned my English handwriting (excluding my signature) in favor of my printing. While the handwriting is different for Cyrillic and the Roman alphabets, there are many similarities between them in handwritten form, and so it would seem my slowness in writing English handwriting has crossed the bridge to Russian. I have to write it at a real crawl to make it legible, which brings me to my last point:</li>
<li>I can read my printing much easier than my handwriting, whether it be English or Russian. The slowness and relative illegibility of my handwriting are the exact reasons which caused me to abandon it so long ago. While I can now quickly read my English handwriting (when I use it, which is practically never), due to the Russian words still being rather unfamiliar to me, I really struggle to read many of them when I write them in cursive. When I print them with block letters, if I know the word, there&#8217;s no struggle. I see it and I recognize the word; there&#8217;s no 5 minute process of peering at it, saying &#8220;is that 2 Ð˜&#8217;s, or a Ð¨?&#8221; I can actually see such peering and wondering as detrimental to my acquisition of the language, and Russian has enough hurdles without me adding more! <img src='http://languagegeek.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
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<p>In short, for <em>me</em>, using the cursive form of the writing has no practical use for me, and I don&#8217;t gain any particular buzz of &#8220;Russian-ness&#8221; from making myself use it; on the contrary, I actually find it a bit uncomfortable, just as I find writing in cursive English uncomfortable these days.</p>
<p>Having said that, if you&#8217;re learning Russian, <em>do</em> learn the cursive, at least to a passive recognition stage; and furthermore, if you find it faster, more legible, or just plain more <em>fun</em> to use cursive over block letters - by all means, do so!</p>
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		<title>Cyrillic Handwriting - Should You Learn It?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw a forum post at How To Learn Any Language which caught my interest. Namely, Iversen (who&#8217;s word list method I&#8217;m still using, by the way) said:
I disagree with Chelovek on one point - his recommandation of cursive writing. You have to learn the printed version of cursive because it pops up in many [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a forum post at <a href="http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/">How To Learn Any Language</a> which caught my interest. Namely, Iversen (who&#8217;s word list method I&#8217;m still using, by the way) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I disagree with Chelovek on one point - his recommandation of cursive <span class="highlight">writing</span>. You have to learn the printed version of cursive because it pops up in many places, not least in magazines where it serves to emphasize a section of the text. Some dictionaries also use the printed version of cursive for certain purposes. However you will see very little <em>handwritten</em> <span class="highlight">Russian</span> unless you live in Russia (or certain other places in the former USSR), and there is absolutely no reason that you should care about it. Virtually everything you will ever see is printed stuff, and most printed stuff isn&#8217;t written in cursive.</p></blockquote>
<p>He has a good point, I think. Before seeing it in my language books, guess how many times I&#8217;d seen cursive Cyrillic handwriting? Never, actually. Everything in Cyrillic I&#8217;d ever seen had been in block letters, as everything I&#8217;d ever seen in Cyrillic had been printed.</p>
<p>I think gaining at least a familiarity with the handwritten cursive is worth doing, simply because it doesn&#8217;t take much time - you can learn how the letters are made and joined together in an hour or so, two at the most. But after reading Iversen&#8217;s post, I question the usefulness of forcing oneself to use cursive Cyrillic in your studies, simply because you&#8217;re most likely practicing a skill that you&#8217;re not going to use. Now, if you live in Russia or somewhere in the former USSR, then it would be a different matter altogether. But for those of us who don&#8217;t live there, is there really any benefit to be had by using cursive Cyrillic handwriting as opposed to just writing with block letters?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted back in March of &#8216;07 about some videos that Natasha at Spoonful of Russian had made, showing how to write each Cyrillic letter. These videos are still available, but if you&#8217;re wanting something a bit quicker, Brown University has a page with all of the Cyrillic letters; hover your mouse over each letter [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <a href="http://languagegeek.net/2007/05/26/more-russian-cursive-writing-videos/">posted</a> back in March of &#8216;07 about some videos that Natasha at Spoonful of Russian had made, showing how to write each Cyrillic letter. These videos are still available, but if you&#8217;re wanting something a bit quicker, Brown University has a <a href="http://www.brown.edu/Departments/LRC/RU_writing/index.htm">page</a> with all of the Cyrillic letters; hover your mouse over each letter to see how it&#8217;s written. The &#8220;videos&#8221; are actually animated GIFs, so they&#8217;re much quicker to load than the QuickTime movies on Natasha&#8217;s site. They automatically loop, so you can quickly verify if you&#8217;re making the letters correctly or not.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve noticed something that has happened with my language learning, and I&#8217;m wondering if it&#8217;s happened to any other learners:
I&#8217;ve been learning German much, much longer than French. That being the case, I know a great deal more of German. The language has become increasingly transparent to me, and most of what I work on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed something that has happened with my language learning, and I&#8217;m wondering if it&#8217;s happened to any other learners:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been learning German much, much longer than French. That being the case, I know a great deal more of German. The language has become increasingly transparent to me, and most of what I work on now is listening skills and vocabulary acquisition. In the case of many of the words I learn, I have a good idea of what they mean <em>before</em> I look them up, quite often due to them being related to words I already know. In other words, the more German I&#8217;ve learned, the less exotic it&#8217;s become.</p>
<p>French, on the other hand, while I&#8217;m becoming increasingly more familiar with it via Assimil, is still quite exotic. There&#8217;s so much about the grammar that I don&#8217;t know; there&#8217;s so many basic words I don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;ve definitely left the shore, but I&#8217;ve not yet explored much of the ocean, so to say. I&#8217;m not implying that I&#8217;ve explored all of the German ocean - that would be absurd - but I&#8217;ve charted a great deal of it. With the &#8220;French ocean&#8221;, I&#8217;ve explored very little, relatively speaking.</p>
<p>The result of this is that I find myself clamoring to spend more time in the French ocean than in the German. I like to devote a bit of time each day to both languages, but I get more of a thrill (for lack of a better word) during my French studies. My German studies have become mundane, in a way; not boring, by any means, but <em>different</em> than they used to be. For example, reading a German news article, while such an act used to feel like &#8220;language learning&#8221;, now generally feels like I&#8217;m just reading the news. I note the words I don&#8217;t know and look them up, but other than that, I don&#8217;t even really have to think about it. I read the news in German like I would in English.</p>
<p>Has anyone else experienced this? Have you had a language lose a bit of its initial charms after having learned a lot of it?</p>
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